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255 - Why the Best Innovation Comes From Employees, Not CEOs

255 - Why the Best Innovation Comes From Employees, Not CEOs3 Sept45 min

Steve Jobs. Elon Musk. Mark Zuckerberg. We tell their stories like they invented the future alone in a garage. Kaihan Krippendorff says that the story is mostly fiction, and the data backs him up.

On this episode of The World Class Leaders Show, host Andrea Petrone talks with Kaihan Krippendorff, founder of Outthinker and one of Thinkers50's top 20 global management thinkers, about who actually creates the world's biggest innovations. Spoiler: it's usually not the founder.

Kaihan walks through the numbers. Looking at the 30 most transformative innovations of the last 30 years, from the internet to DNA sequencing to solar advances, roughly 70 percent were conceived by employees working within already established companies, not by entrepreneurs starting something new. He explains why we tell the founder story anyway, because it's a great story, not necessarily a true one, and why that matters more than it sounds. If the only innovation story we tell is to quit school, go to a garage, disrupt everything, most people quietly write themselves out of the innovation conversation entirely.

From there, Andrea and Kaihan dig into what founders actually do well, creating the conditions for other people to innovate, and what most companies get wrong about unlocking that from their own employees, including an idea borrowed from Amy Edmondson's work on psychological safety that has nothing to do with venting complaints and everything to do with giving people room to propose a half formed idea without getting shot down.

What you'll get out of this episode:

Why 70 percent of the most transformative innovations came from employees, not founders

Why the garage founder story is more myth than fact, and why it gets told anyway

What founders actually do well, and why that's different from inventing

The psychological safety piece most companies get wrong about employee innovation

Kaihan's framework for finding a fourth option when everyone else is stuck choosing between three

His concept of proximity, and why value creation is moving closer to the moment of demand

The four things he believes AI still can't do in strategy