
← Truth & Transcendence25 Sept · 43 min
Is Stress Actually Good For You? The Truth About Intensity with Nico Verresen
Catherine Llewellyn welcomes Nico Verresen, former Muay Thai champion, psychologist and founder of Burnout Boxing Experience. Nico explores his lifelong relationship with intensity and how a passion that took him to the top of combat sports eventually led him to a very different mission: helping people embrace intensity rather than automatically seeing stress as something harmful.
After years of fighting, Nico's body finally forced him to stop when severe eye injuries ended his competitive career. The experience helped him recognise that intensity itself wasn't the problem—it was how we related to it. He now works with people to understand their nervous systems, embrace challenging experiences and develop the presence to choose how they respond.
They explore stress as an adaptive system, the difference between stress and suffering, why our beliefs about stress can influence how we experience it, and how challenge can become the “spice” that makes life more alive. Nico also shares how his relationship with intimacy and intensity has evolved, and why emotions such as stress, anger and anxiety can be understood as messages rather than problems to suppress.
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Where our conversation went:
01:18 Nico's lifelong attraction to intensity and where it began
04:00 Discovering Muay Thai and becoming deeply immersed in combat sports
05:54 The medical diagnosis that ended Nico's fighting career
07:47 Recognising the parallels between his father's work ethic and his own drive
08:47 Why suffering your way to the top is a losing game
09:09 Nico's new mission: helping people embrace intensity and stress as part of adaptation